Dear Professors Moaz, Blondheim,
and copy to Prof. Ben Sasson
scientific polls in the
social sciences???
Given Prof. Moaz’s manifestly bland, pro –
forma, repeated assurances, it should not be difficult to respond to at
least all of my questions.
Or redact the polls as far too many entities
internationally and in Israel are using your dubious ‘results’. This matter is
not going to be solved by obfuscating.
Shalom,
Geoff Seidner
It is past due our bedtime in
Melbourne.
From: msifat@gmail.com
Sent: Thursday, March 06, 2014 7:42 PM
Subject: Polls
Dear Mr. Seidner,
Copied: Professor Menahem Blondheim,
Head, The Truman Institute
1. Professor Ben Sasson has not written
to me.
2. The poll was conducted according to
the highest standards of conducting scientific polls in the social
sciences, in order to obtain maximally valid and reliable results.
Ifat Maoz
----- Forwarded message from g87 <g87@optusnet.com.au> -----
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2014 11:49:49 +1100
From: g87 <g87@optusnet.com.au>
Subject: PLEASE REDACT YOUR POLLS
To: hupres@savion.huji.ac.il
Cc: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
Dear Professor Menachem Ben – Sasson
and
Professor Maoz
Thank you Professor Ben – Sasson for eliciting a pair of email responses from Professor Maoz.
Thank you Professor Maoz for the pair of emails as cut and pasted below.
Your response was misfiled – thus the minor delay.
However, Professor Maoz: kindly respond to the questions embedded in my email to Prof. Ben – Sasson.
As well as the below
1.. You have also raised the obvious question: why have all matters material to your poll stated that they were organized by your University if it was indeed done by ‘’a professional polling company’’?
2.. Given that you write that there were ‘’no inducements offered ‘’– you may care to satisfy me as to how it is possible to elicit so much information from people without any inducements?
3.. The suggestion / implication is that those that responded to the astonishing range of questions must by the very nature of these responses been ‘committed’ to some cause. If only so indicated by the heroic, prolix, extensive responses. I further suggest that there must have been aborted interviews of people not so committed to the cause.
4.. Oh – the ‘cause’ I postulate is indeed the subject of the poll: THE TWO STATE SOLUTION.
5.. So I ask; how many interviews were aborted and by logical implication not counted in your results?
6.. If they were counted – how could this be? This elicits too many hypothesees – which I will leave alone pending your response.
7.. Kindly advise in what order were the questions asked – and obviously answered?
8.. What context was given to the respondents – say that there have been 40 disparate peace conferences – all aborted for lack of genuine interest from the Palestinians?
9.. IF this context – and more importantly the ‘context’ I allude to was only what was published in your massive doc below and in the earlier email to Prof. Ben – Sasson was the only ‘context’ then i impugn this as being utterly devoid of context / background briefing.
10.. Indeed – I postulate that it would be wrong if my item #8 above was only used: you would have to include the Palestinian version of history – or merely the hundreds of articles on the moribund peace processes much beloved by those besotted with peace and conflict studies. OH! YOU EFFECTIVELY DID THAT BY IGNORING REALITY IN WHAT YOU PUBLISHED WAS THE PRODUCT OF THE POLL! I reiterate in case I am not clear – you messed up – or the pollster messed up basis what any reasonable person would understand intuitively from MERE RESULT OF THE POLL!!
11.. Again – exactly what were all the questions asked of those who stayed with you to the nether world in polling?
12.. And an important new question: do you realize that if you were to have merged the 2 main questions – OR WERE TO HAVE GIVEN AWAY QUESTION 2 AS YOU ASKED QUESTION 1 – YOU WOULD HAVE GOT A WILDLY DIFFERENT ANSWER?
13.. NOTWITHSTANDING WHAT OTHER VARIABLES WOULD HAVE RESULTED EX ALL THE ABOVE?
14.. AND ALL THE BELOW?
15.. And – please respond to what I wrote earlier: here it is:
I now request that she / you respond to the items 1 – 20. http://www.ncpp.org/?q=node/4
Particularly #2,4,6,7,9 and particularly #15
I wish you well in answering.
You may care to contemplate that your poll has been widely quoted as the 63% / 53% AKA ‘’VAST MAJORITY OF ISRAELIS’’
I have no time to clarify: but you know what I allude to.
Note that I realize the complexity of comparing the 2 results. It is far too complex for now – if at all.
Please do not seek defence in this – because I think it would be a grave error on your part.
This has not been properly edited – but it will do!
It is time the polls results were publically redacted and a new one avoiding the chimeras you plainly created was made.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
From: g87
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 11:14 AM
To: hupres@savion.huji.ac.il
Subject: To President Ben – Sasson Hebrew University
Office of the President
About our President
Prof. Menahem Ben-Sasson
President, The Hebrew University of Jerusalem
http://new.huji.ac.il/en/page/454
Dear President Ben – Sasson
I request that you elicit a response from Prof. Maoz: I have now emailed her thrice now.
It seems to me sad that she is reticent / refuses to respond.
My questions are simple enough: her reticence has forced me to contemplate if she is hiding anything.
It is incumbent on pollsters to proudly vouchsafe their modus vivendi.
I now request that she / you respond to the items 1 – 20. http://www.ncpp.org/?q=node/4
Particularly #2,4,6,7,9 and particularly #15
Please appreciate that I have not studied the above article: no doubt there will be more questions.
Prof. Moaz will be proud to assure us that her work re the polls are all based on sound protocols.
I also have my own question: what sort of uniforms were those conducting the polls wearing on the Palestinian side?
And how were the pollsters introducing themselves on the Israeli side on the telephone?
Perhaps the most important is the original brief question /s below.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
Melbourne
Australia
From: g87
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 8:44 AM
To: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
Subject: Kindly respond, I beseech you. Please reply
Dear Professor Maoz
Kindly respond, I beseech you.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
From: g87
Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:44 PM
To: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
Subject: Please reply
Dear Professor Maoz
I hope to have your response soon.
Shalom
Geoff Seidner
From: g87
Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:48 PM
To: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
Subject: Survey 2 State solution
Prof. Ifat Maoz
Hebrew University
Dear Professor Maoz
I wish to be advised as to exactly how the survey was conducted at your end and whether there was any variation with respect to how Prof. Khalil Shikaki carried out matters at his end.
As a simple overview – I think there were a lot of questions asked: what was offered as compensation / inducement for both / either groups?
I would expect to be paid for responding to such a lot of questions. There is nothing anomalous / wrong with the above scenario re compensation.
Regards
Geoff Seidner
Melbourne
Australia
http://www.jpost.com/National-News/Hebrew-U-survey-finds-most-Israelis-and-Palestinians-support-two-state-solution-336744
http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-israelis-palestinians-support-2-state-solution/
http://support.huji.ac.il/HeaderMenu/news-events/press/truman_survey_two-states/
https://sites.google.com/site/smarthuji/ifatmaoz
http://new.huji.ac.il/en/article/18531
http://bit.ly/de13poll.
-----Original Message-----
From: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 2:47 PM
To: g87
Subject: Re: Kindly respond, I beseech you. Please reply
Hi
I am away in Stanford so have not opened this email.
The poll was conducted by a professional polling company using the
procedures and norms it uses to make sure that randomly sampled
unbiased and validly done. Same norms used internationally to conduct
such polls.
No compensation given.
Khalil is very professional but you should ask him directly about his poll.
Generally the methods are comparable but there are some differences to
adjust for the different life conditions.
Best,
Ifat
Quoting g87 <g87@optusnet.com.au>:
Dear Professor MaozKindly respond, I beseech you.ShalomGeoff SeidnerFrom: g87Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:44 PMTo: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.ilSubject: Please replyDear Professor MaozI hope to have your response soon.ShalomGeoff SeidnerFrom: g87Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:48 PMTo: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.ilSubject: Survey 2 State solutionProf. Ifat MaozHebrew UniversityDear Professor MaozI wish to be advised as to exactly how the survey was conducted atyour end and whether there was any variation with respect to howProf. Khalil Shikaki carried out matters at his end.As a simple overview – I think there were a lot of questions asked:what was offered as compensation / inducement for both / eithergroups?I would expect to be paid for responding to such a lot of questions.There is nothing anomalous / wrong with the above scenario recompensation.RegardsGeoff SeidnerMelbourneAustraliahttp://www.jpost.com/National-News/Hebrew-U-survey-finds-most-Israelis-and-Palestinians-support-two-state-solution-336744http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-israelis-palestinians-support-2-state-solution/http://support.huji.ac.il/HeaderMenu/news-events/press/truman_survey_two-states/https://sites.google.com/site/smarthuji/ifatmaozhttp://new.huji.ac.il/en/article/18531http://bit.ly/de13poll.---This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirusprotection is active.http://www.avast.com
Professor Ifat Maoz
Hebrew University of Jerusalem
On Sabbatical leave at the Department of Psychology, Stanford University
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-----Original Message-----
From: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.il
Sent: Wednesday, March 05, 2014 2:51 PM
To: g87
Subject: Re: Kindly respond, I beseech you. Please reply
We do not compensate respondents in these polls.
Quoting g87 <g87@optusnet.com.au>:
Dear Professor MaozKindly respond, I beseech you.ShalomGeoff SeidnerFrom: g87Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2014 2:44 PMTo: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.ilSubject: Please replyDear Professor MaozI hope to have your response soon.ShalomGeoff SeidnerFrom: g87Sent: Monday, March 03, 2014 7:48 PMTo: msifat@mscc.huji.ac.ilSubject: Survey 2 State solutionProf. Ifat MaozHebrew UniversityDear Professor MaozI wish to be advised as to exactly how the survey was conducted atyour end and whether there was any variation with respect to howProf. Khalil Shikaki carried out matters at his end.As a simple overview – I think there were a lot of questions asked:what was offered as compensation / inducement for both / eithergroups?I would expect to be paid for responding to such a lot of questions.There is nothing anomalous / wrong with the above scenario recompensation.RegardsGeoff SeidnerMelbourneAustraliahttp://www.jpost.com/National-News/Hebrew-U-survey-finds-most-Israelis-and-Palestinians-support-two-state-solution-336744http://www.timesofisrael.com/poll-most-israelis-palestinians-support-2-state-solution/http://support.huji.ac.il/HeaderMenu/news-events/press/truman_survey_two-states/https://sites.google.com/site/smarthuji/ifatmaozhttp://new.huji.ac.il/en/article/18531http://bit.ly/de13poll.---This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirusprotection is active.http://www.avast.com
Professor Ifat Maoz
Hebrew University of Jerusalem
On Sabbatical leave at the Department of Psychology, Stanford University
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